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Something may be frustrating to attain but satisfying once attained. For example, 'It was frustrating to try to scale Mt. Everest, but it was satisfying to finally reach the top.' He may mean that it is frustating to try to master this game but satisfying when you do make progress in mastering it. In fact, if you keep at something despite repeated frustration, your experience of frustration may eventually add to your satisfaction at attaining your goal. For example, it is more frustrating to play a good opponent and more satisfying to defeat one. Also, something that is more challenging, such as a difficult Chess problem, will normally be both more frustrating and more satisfying than something less challenging, such as watching Sesame Street and figuring out which one of four objects doesn't belong. In this way, the same thing may be both frustrating and satisfying.