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Thanks, Roberto and Jeff. I am very grateful that Chogo44 now looks like it might become part of the main competition via the preset. Regarding an implementation within Zillions, although it would obviously be nice to have Chogo44 itself done, more important in my view would be to have the larger rectangular versions, particularly a 12x8 format up - anything up to around 14x11 versions of latrunculi may well have been played - though there is obviously no particular urgency for this. Regards, dtj