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Berolina Chess. Different moving pawns. (8x8, Cells: 64) (Recognized!)[All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
Anonymous wrote on Sat, Jul 3, 2004 12:13 AM UTC:
It would be nice to see Berolina Chess vs. Normal Chess. Who would win?

Gary Gifford wrote on Wed, Jun 21, 2006 04:51 PM UTC:
I went to congratulate one of the CV members for inventing Berolina Chess and having it win the poll, only to be shocked to see that it came about in 1926, from the mind of Edmund Hebermann of Berlin. I knew about those wild pawns, just never knew they were from that far back. Oh well, Congradulations to Mr. Hebermann of Berlin.

Jeremy Good wrote on Wed, Jun 21, 2006 06:10 PM UTC:
It sounds Italian doesn't it? I had been thinking it was some ancient Italian construct of chess. The word 'Berolina' apparently means 'From Berlin' [self-edited out a specious reference here to origins of name for pawn.]

Ivan Roth wrote on Fri, May 27, 2011 07:18 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
One of the best. I just thought about it the other day because I was messing around in Zillions, and realized that these pawns would be perfect for shatranj. That game has a problem with being too slow paced, and this would be the perfect fix! No double step, of course, nor any other pawn features not in shatranj. Pretty cool, right?

kolmna wrote on Tue, Dec 10, 2013 12:10 PM UTC:
Why not make a real berolina chess.
Real berolina chess would assume:
Split 360 degree into 4 parts, rook move into those lines. And can do
castling move.
Bishop move between those rook moves.
Pawn has the moves of rook that advance, but only in move mode. And have
the bishop moves that advance only being able to capture with it.


So
Real Berolina chess
Usuall chess rules except:
Rook move like a fide bishop and can castle.
Bishop move like a fide rook but cant castle.
Pawn is berolina pawn.

Kevin Pacey wrote on Tue, Oct 3, 2017 12:21 AM UTC:Good ★★★★

I rate Berolina Chess as below Excellent since I somewhat dislike that pawns open files so easily, and that they can more easily become passed (plus Berolina pawns continually force the mind of an orthodox chess player to adjust at every stage of his calculations). The pawn structures that often result, in spite of not being clearly weak, also look ugly to the orthodox mind. On the bright side, such features (the merits of which can be debated) do attract a lot of variant players due to their novelty, in fundamentally shifting away from the foundation of standard pawns that is retained in so many variants.

As for chess, my estimates for the piece values would be: P=1; N=3.49; B=3.5; R=5.5; Q=10 and a fighting value of K=4 (though naturally it cannot be traded).

Here's an experiment 10x8 CV that uses Berolina Pawns also:

https://www.chessvariants.com/play/gamma2-chess


Benjamin Silversten wrote on Sat, Dec 19, 2020 12:42 AM UTC:

hate it


Kevin Pacey wrote on Sun, Dec 20, 2020 11:00 PM UTC:

Not sure why this CV would be hated, though these are not my favourite types of pawns (but I still play the game from time to time).

It's refreshing to see more comments from different people (some being newcomers?) on various CVs etc. on this site, even if some don't plan on playing, or authoring/inventing, things anytime [soon].


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Fri, Sep 1, 2023 06:35 PM UTC:

BTWAFAIK all Game Courier presets for this variant are bugged (b & h pawns cannot make double step, a pawn is immobile). I’ve created GC preset without this flaw.


HaruN Y wrote on Mon, Jun 3 11:21 AM UTC:Good ★★★★

Berolina Chess960

files=8 ranks=8 promoZone=1 promoChoice=NBRQ graphicsDir=/graphics.dir/alfaeriePNG/ squareSize=50 graphicsType=png symmetry=mirror royal=K firstRank=1 borders=0 coordColor=#785b64 lightShade=#513b43 darkShade=#252b3c rimColor=#171e29 shuffle=N!BRQK berolina pawn:P:fmFfceWifnmA:berolinapawn:a2,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,,a7,b7,c7,d7,e7,f7,g7,h7 knight:N:N:knight:b1,g1,,b8,g8 bishop:B:B:bishop:c1,f1,,c8,f8 rook:R:R:rook:a1,h1,,a8,h8 queen:Q:Q:queen:d1,,d8 king:K:KisO2:king:e1,,e8

HaruN Y wrote on Thu, Jun 6 12:41 AM UTC in reply to Kevin Pacey from Tue Oct 3 2017 12:21 AM:

Berolina Gridiron Chess960

files=8 ranks=8 promoZone=1 promoChoice=NBRQ graphicsDir=/cgi-bin/fen2.php?s=50&t=Greenwade&w=4dff00&b=00ffd4&p= squareSize=50 graphicsType= symmetry=mirror royal=K firstRank=1 borders=0 rimColor=#001433 lightShade=#a5acaf darkShade=#245998 coordColor=#ffffff shuffle=N!BRQK gridiron berolina pawn:P:fmF*:wide--berolina:a2,b2,c2,d2,e2,f2,g2,h2,,a7,b7,c7,d7,e7,f7,g7,h7 knight:N:N:knight:b1,g1,,b8,g8 bishop:B:B:bishop:c1,f1,,c8,f8 rankrider:R:sR:wide--rook:a1,h1,,a8,h8 free boar:Q:shQ:wide--queen:d1,,d8 royal blind monkey:K:shKisO2:wide--king:e1,,e8

You might like this variant where open files aren't that useful.


HaruN Y wrote on Tue, Aug 20 01:07 AM UTC in reply to from Sat Jul 3 2004 12:13 AM:

Normal Pawns since they can fork.


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