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🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Thu, Mar 31, 2005 05:35 PM UTC:
I have just made a major revision to the code and structure of this page. Most anchor names have been changed to make them better reflect the hierarchy of the document. The submenus have been moved to the main menu area, so that the top of any section shown will also be the top of the menu, thereby causing the page to not jump around so much. You get the menu and submenus on the left and the content on the right. If you don't have JavaScript, you will get the full menus and content at once. If you have JavaScript running, then parts will remain hidden until you choose to see them.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Thu, Mar 31, 2005 05:48 PM UTC:
There is still a problem with jumping around, caused by using the same strings for submenu IDs and Anchor NAMEs. Apparently, IDs work as anchors just as well as NAMEs do. I'll fix this later.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Fri, Apr 1, 2005 12:39 AM UTC:
The version I uploaded earlier today wasn't working too well with Internet Explorer. I did some debugging with IE, and now I have a version that is working well with both Mozilla Firefox and Internet Explorer. I haven't tested it on other browers. If anything's not working right, let me know, and let me know on which browser it is not working right.

Greg Strong wrote on Fri, Apr 1, 2005 12:50 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
Sweeeet!  All works fine now under IE.  That being said, I have heard so
many people tell me that they are running FireFox that I guess I should at
least look at it.

This new feedback page is excellent.

Thomas McElmurry wrote on Fri, Apr 1, 2005 05:05 AM UTC:Good ★★★★
'Good' is for the content and general usefulness of the feedback page. It would be 'Excellent' if the spiffy interface worked better.

Browsers running under Windows XP:

Opera 7.51 (my preferred browser): When the content is hidden (i.e. before I select an item or when I select an item which opens a submenu), a small rectangle of the lavender background color (#ddccdd) is visible. When I click on any item which opens a submenu, it jumps down the page, so that the line reading 'Written by...' is at the top of the screen. When I scroll back up and click on any menu or submenu item which doesn't open another menu, the appropriate content displays on the right, with the top of the #fedead-colored box aligned with the top of the screen.

Mozilla Firefox 1.0: As with Opera, a small lavender rectangle is visible, but with a different size, shape, and location. When I click on any menu item, the top of the screen neatly bisects the question 'What do you want to do?' and the appropriate content displays on the right.

Netscape 7.1: Behaves identically to Firefox. Not surprising, since Netscape is essentially Mozilla.

M$ Aieee! 6.0.2900.2180.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158: The full content is visible as the page loads, and instead of the small lavender rectangle seen in other browsers, we have a larger lavender rectangle, whose height always matches the height of the visible portion of the menu tree, and whose width changes every time a different submenu is opened. Clicking on menu items sometimes causes the screen to jump vertically, but only slightly.

Browsers running on a Red Hat Linux system consigned to the 'care' of a Windows devotee:

Netscape Communicator 4.8: Reports two JavaScript errors as the page loads; I assume these are due to an obsolete browser running an obsolete version of JavaScript. The entire menu tree is immediately visible. Clicking on any menu item causes the screen to jump to a seemingly arbitrary point, with an apparent preference for the very bottom of the page. The content which should be associated with the various menu items is nowhere to be found.

Mozilla 1.0.2: When no content is displayed, there is a lavender rectangle at the far right of the screen. This rectangle is equal in height to, and aligned vertically with, the heading 'What do you want to do?'. It is also only slightly wider than this heading, and its width remains fixed when content is opened. Thus the text displays in a very narrow column, with much wasted space in the center of the page. The vertical positioning of the page is exactly as in the Windows version of Firefox.

Konqueror 3.0.5a-0.73.4: The menu tree expands and contracts properly, and clicking on any item causes the screen to jump to the top of the page (which is in my opinion the most sensible place to jump to if you have to jump somewhere). The content which should be associated with the various menu items is nowhere to be found.

General comments reflecting my taste in web design: The fancy JavaScript and CSS stuff would be great, if it worked flawlessly. But if the content can't be gotten to, or if navigating the menus causes jumping to nonintuitive points on the page, it's not worth it. Form should follow function. Also, since so few browsers make a serious attempt to comply with standards, any time you tune something for one or two browsers, you're probably breaking it for the rest.

Now, I only pretend to know HTML, and I know almost nothing about JavaScript or CSS, so forgive me if this is a stupid question: Why are HREFs and NAMEs necessary at all?


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Fri, Apr 1, 2005 06:55 PM UTC:
I've updated it to work better with Opera, but there are still some problems. One is that the Contact Form, which this is supposed to replace, has an anchor named submit, and so does this page. Also, Internet Explorer says there are errors on the page, but I don't know how to get it to tell me what they are. The main thing I did was to put the various anchors inside NOSCRIPT tags and use JavaScript to place alternate anchors above the table, just underneath the Feedback heading. It is supposed to jump to that spot whenever you click on anything, but it is not jumping at all except for clicking on 'Submit Content', which jumps to the prior 'submit' anchor at the top of the page in the Contact Form. I'm thinking it is not recognizing the anchors I tried to create with JavaScript. Overall, it seems to be working well with Firefox, Internet Explorer, and Opera, but it is not jumping to the top of the table, which is what I prefer to happen.

Thomas McElmurry wrote on Fri, Apr 1, 2005 11:23 PM UTC:
Right now the behavior under Opera is what I would consider perfect. I actually prefer that it not jump to the top of the table, since this way the page stays where I put it. If I want to scroll to the top of the table, I can do that quite easily. But I might want to keep the top of the page visible, or the comments section, or whatever. If so, it's very annoying when every click forces me back to the top of the table. In short, the page is more flexible if it doesn't force one set of preferences on all its users.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Apr 2, 2005 12:42 AM UTC:
I now have it working perfectly in Mozilla Firefox, Internet Explorer, Opera, and Mozilla. I got the alternate anchors to work, so that when JavaScript is running, clicking on any link goes to the top of the table. This is the natural place you would want to set it at for maximum visibility, and once you click on your first link, it stays in place, because all relative links go to the same place on the page.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Apr 2, 2005 12:50 AM UTC:
I just used Web Developer to disable JavaScript on Firefox, and it works just as it should when JavaScript isn't running.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sat, Apr 2, 2005 02:54 AM UTC:
I have just tested this page on web browsers I have on my Windows 95 computer, which I usually no longer use. It worked perfectly for Netscape 6.2, Internet Explorer, and Lynx. Lynx does not support JavaScript or CSS, but this page did degrade gracefully on Lynx. The only browser that did not work well was Netscape Communicator. Some of the JavaScript worked, and some didn't. Fortunately, part of what didn't work was the ability to hide parts of the page. So at least someone using this browser could view the entire content of the page. But links did not work, the CSS worked incompletely, and, as mentioned, text could not be hidden. I saw one error I know how to fix. I need to place a JavaScript comment before I end the HTML comment that encloses the JavaScript. But I can't fix anything until I get back to my other computer, since my ftp program on this one doesn't have the right information for logging onto chessvariants.org. As for Netscape Communicator, I think the main problem is that it uses a different DOM than Gecko. So, with information on the old Netscape DOM, I might be able to fix it by providing alternate code for Netscape Communicator. But it might not be worth the trouble. Even the Netscape homepage wasn't working well with this program, and I doubt it is still in much use, given that Windows 95 users can upgrade to Netscape 6.

🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Sun, Apr 3, 2005 01:09 AM UTC:
My attempts to get this page to work properly with Netscape 4 have been unsuccessful. One reason for this was that Netscape 4 uses document.layers and document.layer instead of document.getElementById. But another reason was that I couldn't get Netscape 4 to set the values of elements, even using its peculiar DOM. So what I did was to program this page to mimic the effect of JavaScript being completely off when document.getElementById is not available in a browser's DOM. So Netscape 4 users will just get the full content with links that go to the appropriate sections. That being said, Netscape 4 is really an obsolete browser, and anyone who still uses it should be able to upgrade to something better.

(zzo38) A. Black wrote on Thu, May 19, 2005 03:52 AM UTC:
I can't post chess variant uses the page to automatically enter chess variants into the system.

Tony Quintanilla wrote on Sun, May 29, 2005 07:53 AM UTC:
The Chess Variant Pages e-mail address has been changed, at least for now. I won't quote it here to avoid web trolling robots, but you can see it at this page. If you submitted something recently using the old editors' address, please re-send it. We may not have received it. Thanks!

(zzo38) A. Black wrote on Thu, Jun 16, 2005 03:39 PM UTC:
When trying to update the index information of member-submitted pages, I get this error message: <b>Error performing query: Table 'chessvar_Test.WhatsNew' doesn't exist</b>

David Howe wrote on Thu, Jun 16, 2005 05:17 PM UTC:
X., please try again. I made a slight typo in the code.

metalmaker01 wrote on Thu, Jul 14, 2005 03:46 PM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★
umm can a king take a pawn that has it in check if a castle is nearby so that my plan is worked out correctly or does the castle have to take it

Cliff Lundberg wrote on Thu, Oct 6, 2005 09:40 AM UTC:Poor ★
I'm mentioned under cylindrical chess. I'd like to update my e-mail address to: cliff_lundberg@inreach.com Thanks! Cliff

John wrote on Thu, Nov 3, 2005 06:11 PM UTC:
I have recently bought a game of Chinese Army Chess from the internet. It consists of 50 tiles 25 which are red and an equal number of black tiles. I have have a copy of the rules, but I have no clue what the Chinese symbols mean on the pieces. Do you know where I can get pictures of the pieces with identity explanation of the Chinese symbols so that I can figure out what the pieces are and be able to play a game? Thanks for your help. John

(zzo38) A. Black wrote on Thu, Nov 3, 2005 06:27 PM UTC:
Quote:
I have recently bought a game of Chinese Army Chess from the internet. It consists of 50 tiles 25 which are red and an equal number of black tiles. I have have a copy of the rules, but I have no clue what the Chinese symbols mean on the pieces. Do you know where I can get pictures of the pieces with identity explanation of the Chinese symbols so that I can figure out what the pieces are and be able to play a game? Thanks for your help. John

It can be found on http://chessvariants.org/xiangqi.html

Peter Aronson wrote on Thu, Nov 3, 2005 08:48 PM UTC:
John, try Tezhi Luzhanqi, also known as Chinese Army Chess.

Anonymous wrote on Wed, Nov 16, 2005 03:41 AM UTC:
how do i make the pieces move with my computer

Nova wrote on Thu, Nov 17, 2005 04:29 AM UTC:
Yeah I have a question.
My sister came home, she has joined the Chess 'Team' at her school
recently, and she told us of this version of Chess she calls 'TAke It'
where the object of the game is to make your oppenent take all of your
peices off the board.
She was rather vague in the rules and its making me a little nuts. I was
wondering if a. you have heard of such a version, b. what it is called?
and c. if perhaps you knew more what the rules where?

Thanks!:D

Christine Bagley-Jones wrote on Thu, Nov 17, 2005 05:47 AM UTC:
yes, it is a chess variant, called many names .. Also know as: Suicide
Chess, Losing Chess, Killer Chess, Take-all Chess, Giveaway Chess, Must
Capture Chess .. see here -->
http://www.chessvariants.org/diffobjective.dir/giveaway.html

jackiemawr wrote on Sun, Nov 20, 2005 06:32 PM UTC:Good ★★★★
My husband and son love playing chess, but at the moment are having a debate about 'reclaiming a queen' is it a legal move, where does she start from, after reclaiming, all rules to do with the above. Please help.

Jared McComb wrote on Sun, Nov 20, 2005 09:32 PM UTC:
The only thing related to 'reclaiming a queen' in Chess is the promotion
of a pawn to a queen.  For this to happen, the pawn must reach the final
row of the board, from its owner's perspective - in other words, get your
pawn all the way to the other side of the board, and you can promote it to
a queen.

(Additionally, the term 'reclaiming' is a bit inaccurate here, because
it is possible to get more than one queen by doing this multiple times.)

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