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Grant Acedrex. Medieval large chess variant according to recent historians's work. (12x12, Cells: 144) [All Comments] [Add Comment or Rating]
📝Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sat, Dec 2, 2023 02:13 PM UTC:

This page is ready for publication.

@Fergus: I hope I was not wrong writing this page. I felt it was necessary to have it as the old one we have (Grande Acedrex) is based on obsolete interpretation. I suggest that the old page is not removed, imo it can be kept as the title is different, and it is not useless to have it for memory. Just, maybe, an editor could place a link to the new page in the old one with a short explanation.

The text in this page agrees with the Game Courier preset once made by Daniel Zacharias. Which is not straightforwardly easy to find by the way.

All comments welcome. Thank you


📝Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sat, Dec 2, 2023 02:16 PM UTC:

@HG: if this page is accepted for publication by Fergus (I hope it will be) I will need to correct something in the Interactive Diagram: I have not implemented the right Pawn's promotion rule yet. I don't know how to do it. (Pawns promote to the piece of their column). Could you please help me?

Thank you


Daniel Zacharias wrote on Sat, Dec 2, 2023 11:59 PM UTC:

The unicorn in your interactive diagram is not defined correctly. It should be mpyafsW or [N?fB]


📝Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sun, Dec 3, 2023 06:49 AM UTC in reply to Daniel Zacharias from Sat Dec 2 11:59 PM:

Thank you Daniel for pointing this. Now it is corrected.


📝Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sun, Dec 3, 2023 08:45 AM UTC:

@HG: I've experimented different ways but I can't find how to promote the Pawn to the piece that started on the square it goes. I have put the morph code just after the Pawn definition, but it doesn't work. I believe I have not understood. Please, I need your help. Thank you.


H. G. Muller wrote on Sun, Dec 3, 2023 12:15 PM UTC in reply to Jean-Louis Cazaux from 08:45 AM:

You still have promoZone=1 (and maxPromote=1 by default). This causes conflicting instructions to the Diagram: it must both promote the Pawn with the choice given in promoChoice when it reaches last rank, and you specify it to morph there. Promotion per zone/choice prevails in that case, so that the morph specifications for the last rank are ignored. Just set promoZone=0 and the morph would take effect.


📝Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Sun, Dec 3, 2023 04:37 PM UTC in reply to H. G. Muller from 12:15 PM:

Thank you very much HG, for both the solution and the explanation.


Diceroller is Fire wrote on Mon, Dec 4, 2023 11:02 AM UTC:Excellent ★★★★★

Very good article! I really like this variant in this interpretation.


Bn Em wrote on Mon, Dec 4, 2023 02:28 PM UTC:

It is indeed a nice page, and about time we had an accurate description here without having to dig through comments!

I was wondering about the decision to keep the literal translations of the Spanish piece names rather than going with the animals (real or mythical) that they actually meant (not only per the illustrations but also per the textual descriptions), as per the translation notes on your own page. I.e. Aanca ≡ Roc, Cocatriz ≡ Crocodile, and Unicorn ≡ Rhino.

Also actual modern Spanish would have ‘Gran Ajedrez’, not ‘Grande’; it's one of a handful of apocopic forms used when preceding a noun.


📝Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Mon, Dec 4, 2023 07:24 PM UTC in reply to Bn Em from 02:28 PM:

Thanks Bn Em, I'm going to correct Gran Ajedrez.

I think it is interesting to let the reader know what were the original names considering the confusion that had arisen for the Aanca for example.


🕸Fergus Duniho wrote on Tue, Dec 5, 2023 02:05 AM UTC:

I made various edits. This is the main one worth commenting on:

Murray used a different orthograph for the the adjective and wrote Grande Acedrex. It appears that the orthograph was not well stabilized as in our modern era.

I replaced that with this:

Murray used a different orthograph for the the adjective and wrote Grande Acedrex. It appears that the orthograph was not as well stabilized as it has become in our modern era.

I might go further and recommend that we use spelling instead of orthograph unless the latter has a meaning not conveyed by the more familiar word.


📝Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Tue, Dec 5, 2023 08:58 AM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:05 AM:

@Fergus: I appreciate your edits, please go on. My English is not always good.


Bob Greenwade wrote on Tue, Dec 5, 2023 03:48 PM UTC in reply to Fergus Duniho from 02:05 AM:

 

Murray used a different orthograph for the the adjective and wrote Grande Acedrex. It appears that the orthograph was not as well stabilized as it has become in our modern era.

I might go further and recommend that we use spelling instead of orthograph unless the latter has a meaning not conveyed by the more familiar word.

I'd suggest replacing the first "orthograph" with "spelling," and the second with "orthography." The latter refers to the system of conventions for writing out a language (especially one that normally uses a different system than the one shown), so it encompasses the idea a bit better.


📝Jean-Louis Cazaux wrote on Tue, Dec 5, 2023 05:57 PM UTC in reply to Bob Greenwade from 03:48 PM:

Thank you both, it's done.

I have also uploaded a very detailled (rarely seen) image of the illustration of Grant Acedrex in the medieval codex. With this, everyone will be able to make his/her own opinion about which animals or beasts are represented or not.


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