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It means the common way it is interpreted, such as 2 squares along and then one to the side (or vice versa), like as you say an L shape. If however you took the quicker route of say 1 diagonal and then 1 along it could then move 1 square diagonally also. I have included some diagrams to make this more clear.
Well it kind of has the value of 5, but it's value is severely weakened in the endgame and on a 10 x 10 board. A Bishop in fact could prove to be more useful than an Elephant in the Endgame, so it's kind of worth 4.5, but I wouldn't go so far as to say 5.
It doesn't have the Dababba movement... it can only jump when it moves exactly like a Knight does.
Maybe 5 would be a more accurate value, but I wouldn't say anything more as the Rook and Bishop could out number it in the Endgame.
It doesn't have the Dababba movement... it can only jump when it moves exactly like a Knight does.
Maybe 5 would be a more accurate value, but I wouldn't say anything more as the Rook and Bishop could out number it in the Endgame.
Hmmm, I see where you are coming from now. It could be worth more then but I'm still reluctant to give it more than 5.
It is effectively Knight and Pawn, plus King like movement so...
N+P = 4
4 points + a little extra movement (K?) will equal 4.75 - 5.0.
So 5 points plus and minus some variables which effectively cancel each other out... I'd go with 5.
It is effectively Knight and Pawn, plus King like movement so...
N+P = 4
4 points + a little extra movement (K?) will equal 4.75 - 5.0.
So 5 points plus and minus some variables which effectively cancel each other out... I'd go with 5.
I disagree, I've studied several Sovereign Chess openings and any direct attack on the Elephant can be defended.
I challenge you to post an opening sequence where the case is otherwise.
I challenge you to post an opening sequence where the case is otherwise.
Firstly that is a positional variable... each position effects each piece differently - It might be worth more in certain positions, but you can't base its absolute value on merely one position. Secondly I think you are over analysing things.
You're right, that's still far too powerful. So I've made it just Knight and King, with a 3 square first move. That makes all issues I wanted covered and its power remains respective of the balance. Case closed.
I did John, and the Check mate he mentioned wasn't difficult. I seemed to have overlooked its abilities... it was far more powerful than I wanted... so like I said in my last post, I have edited its movement accordingly and now all is okay. All I wanted was a piece of approximately 4 points in value, and that incorporated a Knight move. My Dad and I just sat down and went through it... luckily for me, it's hard to get him interested... but all is written in stone now. Enjoy!
Thanks Joe, I'll look into that. Meanwhile the new combined movement of Dababba and King seems to satisfy my original thesis.
John,
I don't see why I need to change the rules(?). This game has been throroughly revised and also extensively tested with a friend of mine.
The game is finished now, complete, dusted... published...
I don't see why I need to change the rules(?). This game has been throroughly revised and also extensively tested with a friend of mine.
The game is finished now, complete, dusted... published...
I did have problems with one game, Sovereign Chess, but not this or any other game. I think you are getting confused between two games using elephants. With this game I merely took it down temporarily to revise it.
But heh, I'll let you off.
But heh, I'll let you off.
Considering that I have found it hard to gain traffic to my website, mainly for lack of marketting skill, and considering Ganeshan Chess can be a mouthful at a first glance, I have decided to discontinue the website for now... but will instead be writing a book about the game and which will include example positions, useful tactics and indeed the first opening studies. It will be an in depth introduction to the game.
Hopefully published next year sometime.
Hopefully published next year sometime.
I am kind of more attracted to it than I was. Indeed, it must be said that it is quite a good variant. The only problems I have with it is the slight divergence from the classic and somewhat 'romantic' absolute square board. The Champion at either end unfortunately takes away that all familiar routine of castling 'into the corner', nice and smoothly, with your fianchetto all lined up. It is the sentimental concepts that have been slightly tampered with. But that said it is 'enchanting' in its own way too. I would prefer 100 squares with no corner squares in a variant, but then may be I'm asking too much. I am only interested in it for the time being because it is commercial and easy to get started in tournaments. I would still like to see something more to my taste. However, it could catch on, I suppose. If they get their act together and manufacture an actual 'Fool' piece for the advanced version I might buy.
Actually I will express another criticism, and that is, not only does the Champion not have enough range but it is placed right on the edge farthest from anything, making it even longer for it to become useful. Furthermore, I find it is the only piece that suitably protects the end pawns and so you can't really develop it even if you wanted to because you'll leave your side ranks exposed to attack. If anyone can dampen my firey claims please feel free to.
Interesting. Personally my way of approaching the queen loss problem is to add an additional piece that can compete against a queen, but without being as powerful as queen. Say about 6.25 in value. However, your game here is a good approach to that queen loss problem without introducing new pieces or requiring larger boards. The rule does make check mate harder, and perhaps giving the king an extra move instead of some other 'move-distribution scheme' won't go down well with other players - but all the same, as a variant it stands ok. ;)
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Thanks, Jose. ;)
Actually another option would be to place the Minister where the King side Bishop usually stands - since it is also a Bishop you wouldn't be changing anything - then you would have the opposite coloured Bishops.
You then put the King side Bishop where the Queen is and put the Queen on the other side of the King as in normal Chess.
So like this:
R N B Q K B M N R
But yeh, 9x9's are irritating. lol.
Actually another option would be to place the Minister where the King side Bishop usually stands - since it is also a Bishop you wouldn't be changing anything - then you would have the opposite coloured Bishops.
You then put the King side Bishop where the Queen is and put the Queen on the other side of the King as in normal Chess.
So like this:
R N B Q K B M N R
But yeh, 9x9's are irritating. lol.
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Fergus, that's a neat little variant. I had a similar idea back in 2008, but not quite this extensive. I find all the notation and multiple merging a little bit of a mouth full, but all the same Fusion Chess is a great game to add to the list.
Flowerman - the way I registered was I sent in a Chess Variant by email - and then they made me a member. Email them here:
http://www.chessvariants.org/feedback.html#general
http://www.chessvariants.org/feedback.html#general
@Flowerman:
If you've invented a variant it would be much more appreciated if you sent it into the staff and became a member - since no-one can review it here in this topic - and anyway, this topic is about the site or operation of, and not a place to introduce new variants.
If you've invented a variant it would be much more appreciated if you sent it into the staff and became a member - since no-one can review it here in this topic - and anyway, this topic is about the site or operation of, and not a place to introduce new variants.
@Claudio
You need to click Post your own game, and select the relevant options for the type of game you are posting.
@Flowerman
Because as I have said earlier, you cannot discuss or rate the variant in some discussion thread, and secondly it is preferred that you use graphics to aid the explanation of the game, which is better used in an official page.
You need to click Post your own game, and select the relevant options for the type of game you are posting.
@Flowerman
Because as I have said earlier, you cannot discuss or rate the variant in some discussion thread, and secondly it is preferred that you use graphics to aid the explanation of the game, which is better used in an official page.
If you have not heard in a couple of days I'd email them and let them know the issue.
Hi guys. I remember seeing a variant somewhere, a commercially produced one, whereby all pieces are two-toned (half black half white), so it makes no difference which ones you pick, and their colour is determined by which way they face. For example if you are Black you would face the black side of your pieces towards your opponent.
Can anyone remind me of its name and where I can find it?
Can anyone remind me of its name and where I can find it?
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